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John Dee Grimoire Linked to Cthulu Mythos - FAKE? 1 Year, 4 Months ago Karma: 0  
I have a huge collection of grimoires about 30 in real paper - but most of them in e-format. Recently downloaded a curious grimoire called Grimoirium Imperium. Has an introductory that is interesting - starts off like this...

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INTRODUCTION, BY DR. JOHN DEE
This is the book of powerful conjurations and subjugations of demons and Gods which dwell in far away places, places which are past north and south, east and west, up and down, places which are even beyond the Earth and the farthest planets, places which are far from the creation of God. The secrets which I shall tell of were not learned until late in my life, when in 1601 I started to translate a manuscript which I had owned for many years, but had not cared much for. I cared not for it because it was given to me by the fraudulent Barnabas Saul as a present to me so that we should part as friends, despite the lies and deceptions he had told to me. I received the manuscript from Saul in 1581 and I kept it in my library for many years and would have given it to anyone who asked for it, that was how little I cared for it - oh, how glad I am that I did not part with it, for now I realise how important the text is! In the late days of 1601 I felt curious about the book and wondered if it was as valuable as Saul had told me before we parted company. The manuscript said that it was the word of Abd Al-Hazred, who had learned much of the secret art of conjuration from avatars and spirits that he met whilst travelling in the desert. When I first practised the rituals which were described in this book, it was then that I realised it's importance, for here was the most powerful book ever to be written by mortal hand.


Man was I surprised to see Abd Al-Hazred's name there. The rest of the grimoire goes on - I only partially skimmed it - I will give a thorough read tonight. But basically Nyarlathotep is summon-able along with a host of other stuff.

I have read John Dee stuff before - and from his introduction it - just doesn't seem to read like real John Dee material. I came here to get some opinions on this - Searching in Google only brings up 2 real results - curiously this page >> http://www.geocities.com/rosacruz06010/imperiumcomm.htm

adds this to the beginning - but again the citation is bad - and how is the Picatrix related to this?

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Studing this Grimoire I discover that the sigilum on it are actually the version of the Hebrew alphabet called The Alphabet of the Magi. Once I had this knowledge I began to translate this scripting writings to the English alphabet to made clear its secrets. What fallows is what I discored.


opinions?? comments? Also - I don't recall chaosium's cthulu encyclopedia referencing this.
 
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Re:John Dee Grimoire Linked to Cthulu Mythos - FAKE? 1 Month, 4 Weeks ago Karma: 0  
your link is down. Ill try to do some of my own research
 
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Re:John Dee Grimoire Linked to Cthulu Mythos - FAKE? 1 Month, 3 Weeks ago Karma: 2  
As Lord_Acheron said, the link is broken, but I doubt there is a connection. Unless there is a misspelling, the text references "Abd Al-Hazred", while the Necronomicon was ostensibly written by Abdul Alhazrad.

Disparities in the transliteration of Arabic phonetics aside, while the names seem similar, unless this "Grimoirium Imperium" bears a great resemblence to the supposed text of the Necronomicon, I would be inclined to doubt any connection.
 
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